Thursday, November 19, 2009

Dissections






When I taught in Chiloquin I recieved a letter telling me I would lose my job if I let me students do dissections. I have had a few students complain about having to touch dead animals. I have had others ask me where they get the animals from. In knowing that they have "special farms" for dissections do you think that we are inhumane in having you do them? What advantages are there in doing actual dissections vs. virtual dissections?

40 comments:

  1. Yes I agree with disection because it give you a hands on learning experience that gives you a better knowledge on the subeject.
    Mike Krause

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  2. I think dissections are very valuable education tools. Now as to the people who say its inhumane, I pose this scenario to them: Take the sharks we dissected this week, If that shark were to live it probably would have lived an average life and then died and sunk to the depths of the ocean to be forgotten. But if we take that same shark and end its life and use it to learn, and better the world through the immaculate importance of knowledge isnt it worth to dissect it? I speak for myself that when I die, I would rather better the world by donating my body to science, rather than take up space in an overpriced casket in a spendy plot of grass with other people who also decided to spend thousands of dollars on something that has virtually no use other than to hold my corpse

    Eric Devall

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  3. i think we should do disections. if the student have such a huge problem with it make those ones do book work while the rest of us do hands on projects.
    you can ucualy see what the insides look like when you disect and the visual one not too much. and the hands on projects are more fun so your more into it than sitting there looking at a screen or a pice of paper... boreinggg

    Chelsea Hanson

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  4. No i don't belive it's inhumane at all it's human to be curious about how somthing else works. As for Vitrual vs. actual disections I don't know because I've never done a virtual disection but I would asume that an actuall one would be more helpful because I don't think that you would need to virtually disect something at a job.

    -Calvin Clark

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  5. i think dissection are not inhuman because if we never dissect any how would we be able to know what to do if someone need surgery. then we will be able know how to fix vitual organs and stuff.
    Brandon Davis

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  6. We have learned so much throughout history due to exploration of bodies and the practice of dissection. There are many far more inhumane practices that these students and faculty should be addressing! I think dissection is educational and helps us understand our surrounding world much more effectively.

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  7. I do not think that its inhuman to do dissections.
    I think doing an actually dissection is better then a visual (fake) dissection because we are most into the dissection. Plus this is a way that many problems are found out. Like if a stomach is formed differently or if the reproduction organs are different in different species.

    Becky Lopez
    Period 4

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  8. I do not think it is inhuman because we are not disecting human beings or harvesting human beings. we are harvesting fish. Fish do not have feelings they only know the means of survival. Real disections are way better then vitual ones because in a real disection you actually get to know what the thing looks like not an estimated drawing of what it looks like. there for i think that real ones are for better educational purposes!
    -Mikel Cole

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  9. I DON'T THINK IT IS INHUMANE FOR DISSECTING DEAD ANIMALS. IT IS A WAY OF LEARNING HOW DIFFERENT ANIMALS'S BODY WORKS.AND HOW DIFFERENT THEY ARE FROM OTHER ANIMALS. SOME ADVANTAGES ARE THAT WE CAN UPGRADE ON THE HUMAN BODY FOR LIKE WHEN SOMEONE IS SICK IN THE HOSPITAL OR SOMETHING. WE CAN USE GOOD ORGANS FROM THOSES WHO ARE DEAD AND LET THOSE WHO NEED THEM USE THEM. AND WE HAVE TIO DISSECT IN ORDER TO DO THAT

    -BERNIE VASQUEZ

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  10. I believe it's ok to dissect animals because it's give us information telling us how animals are different from one another, whether one's got a stomach or not, or how large a brain is compared to another, so I beleive we use disection to find the answer.

    Taylor Minter P.4

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  11. I dont think that it is inhumane for dissections. Its a learning expierence for us, and I believe that its a good way to learn about other species. I think that by doing a hands on dissection, its helping us all learn in a better way, then you just showing us. It is a better way of teaching, when we actually knowing what we are looking at, and having oh so much fun touching, rather then you just pointing, and saying and this is this, and this is that.

    Lauren Mcgovern
    per.4th

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  12. I myself find it matters upon the circumstances of which the disections are being done that determines if it is inhumane or not. Yes, many medical advances have been discovered through similarities in the anatomies of humans and other co-exsiting sepcies, which is fine, BUT, it is also known that we have discovered a lot about the body and how we can save it and destroy it, through tortures of the holocaust. Our race is far beyond whether we should or shouldn't do disections now, and is at the point where it seems the sky is the limit, which may have consequences, but I don't think that it really is that horrible of a thing, when we do it for the proper reasons and under good conscious.

    Andrew Stork

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  13. I don't think disecting is inhumane, because some people learn better by actually touching and experiencing instead of looking at words in a book. I can learn better from a book most of the time, it just depends, but some people need the actual things and parts in front of them to actually get what it's about. I think some people just want to cause problems by saying it's inhumane. It helps kids learn so I'm all for it.

    Tyra

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  14. I believe that it is not inhumane to dissect. I am a vegetarian and I don't have any problem with working with dead animals. An actual dissection is better in my opinion because you get that hands on experiance. I have done a virtual dissection before and I really did not understand it that well and today i can't even remeber what it was on, but i will always remember an actual dissection and learn more from it. It does kind of bug me that they have special farms just designated to dissection animals. They harvest these animals just to kill them. Whats good is that it is for a better learning experiance.
    Joshua Luce

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  15. It is completely and uterly neccseary to do dissections. Today many, many people would be dead if it wasn't for the medical discoveries through dissections. It seems gross but overall has helped imensley.
    - Daniel Marsden

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  16. Preston
    I think dissecting is an important learning factor for us. It shows us what actually is going on inside the body, and is vital information for us to learn about the species of the world.

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  17. I think that dissecting is a good way to learn about things that are inside the animals.
    I think people learn more when its hands on then to just talk about it.
    -Krystle Hernandez

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  18. I think dissecting is good and bad. We shouldn't produce as many animals for dissecting as we have. I think its fine if the person is totally doing it for the right reason and taking it seriously. But most people its just wasted on, so i think there should be a limit to how many animals are sold for dissections and who its sold to.
    Lanie Quinowski

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  19. when u do disections you dont always thing that the thing ur cutting into was once alive. its sad sometimes to think that that aniaml didnt have a chance at life. but at the same time well u have to learn. to me if ur going to do disectings you should do them on something that died for a reason not because u killed it just to look inside

    Elizabeth Bacon

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  20. I think that it is our right to know what it is that afflicts an animal so that we can cure it so it isn't inhuman that there are farms for dissection. The benefits of an actual disection versus a virtual disection is that u get to see the actual body parts and all of that.
    Zachary Thompson

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  21. If no one had ever cut into a body- at all. No mind the species, age, or sex- but if it had never happened, what would we know about the body, and it's functions? Without decapitation, without tearing animals limb from limb, or gutting a fish after fishing- we would be ignorant of ourselves.
    I understand that some vegetarian, people-loving, tree-hugging hippies might go against cuttring people open- however, we learn exceptional amounts from it.
    As for the classroom, vitual dissections would be okay for the squeamish- but a 3D hands on type deal that you get when you do non-virtual dissections, I believe, does much more for the mind.
    I think that if the professor is financed enough for it, it should definately be applied to the curriculum.
    Although, growing an animal solely for cutting open after death, isn't making the fish as happy as they can be- also making them not as healthy.
    Happy animals are healthy ones; so if you breed colonies of species where their entire purpose is to die and be dismantled.. Not ideal for most. So I would vote that they make the best of it, and do as much research as they can while the animal is alive as well.

    That's all. :]

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  22. When we did disections we got a great hands on learning opportunity that we wouldnt be able to get otherwise. Being able to feel and move the tissues and body organs is all about getting to know the animal. It definitely helps when it comes to tests and other things because its way more interesting and you actually pay attention.
    Camden Long

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  23. im all for disections because we learn so much from doing it. now in school it depends on what it is though like a cat or dog i dont know how people would feel about that but animals like fish,sharks,frogs etc. i think those are alright. Disections are ok in my book because you can learn so much

    alex T

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    Olsen

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  25. Dissections are great hands on learning opportunity. Most activities in school are taught though text books and are never actually demonstrated. Dissections incorporated both hands on learning and the use of text books. Over all it's an effective tool for education.

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  26. Dez posted the comment above.

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  27. Pft. It's better then having to learn from a text book, it's right in front of us. I didn't even know there was a "farm" or whatever specifically made for disections so it's not like we're snatching up Free Willys. There's nothing wrong with it, people are just pansies.

    B. Gann.

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  28. i think that if you think everthing in the whole world is inhumane you should just stop eating cause everytime you have to eat you have to kill something wheater its aplant or an animal..
    love alden

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  29. I do not care either way. This is not something that i'm going to go out and riot about. If a teacher wants me to dissect, I'm going to dissect.
    I'm at school to learn, not to complain about the torture of animals. You can call it inhumane, but unless you're going to go out and do something about it. Quit complaing

    I would rather do a real dissection. In a virtual dissection it would seem as though there was a bit of detatchment from you and the animal.

    -Seth Reynolds

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  30. I think that its perfectly normal, and a normal human reaction, to dissect dead things that live in our world. Its the main way we learn things about the other creatures that inhabit our world.

    Megan Pittman
    period 3

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  31. fickel

    i think it is normal and who ever doesnt like it should just shut up and go to a corner in there room and give up at life because if we cant cut crap open how are we going to learn about the thing and if someone told me about how its not fair for the animal i wouldnt care cause the thing is already dead and it wont feel nothing

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  32. I agree with most of my class mates in the fact that we have learned so much more about the human body with what we have found from disections. They help us in a lot of ways too when it comes to seeing things in animals that we haven't seen before. They are very necessary in my opinion but I also agree with what Andrew said, if people are using it for wrong intentions than it should be delt with but for scientific and health issues i feel they will do more good tha harm.
    Jake Whisler

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  33. rodrigo

    i have no problem with disections i think its a necisary part of science. it helps us better understand the way animals work there diet. and the type of evolutionary traits that help them.

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  34. I think that dissecting is a vital learning tool that allows us to learn more about different species and their body's many functions. Without dissections we would know a lot less about how our own body's work and in turn the many animals that surround us. As long as the animal is dead (see "Bravheart") it is fine and necessary.
    -River

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  35. I don't think dissections are inhumane. They help us understand other animals' anatomies as well as our own. Dissections help us understand different animals and can even enable us to help the species as a whole.

    Virtual dissections are worhtless next to a physical dissection. You cannot touch the different parts and fully grasp and understand the different parts. Personally, I would rather do a hands on dissection over a virtual one.

    -Matt Vanderpol

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  36. i think that dissecting is not bad at all.
    i dont see why people thinks it harsh the animals are dead already and cant feel anything
    but the advantages of actual disections is that u actually get to touch and study the animal well and as for virtual disection that dont sound that interesting

    victoria barajas

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  37. I think that, as long as the animal that is being dissected didn't suffer while being alive or when it got killed, dissection is okay and not inhumane. I believe that dissection is something necessary to do in order to find out more about the body and how everything in it works. I also think that dissection is a good way of learning in school since it's more interesting than to just read a book.

    I would prefer doing a real dissection and not a virtual one because i think that in a real one you are able to feel the different body parts and see them as what they really look like. In a virtual dissection it will never look exactly the same as it does in reality.

    - Ida Holmlund

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  38. I think that disections are good because we learn things about an animal that you couldn't learn from just looking at them. Another reason is because we find cures for diseases that way.
    Haiden Clavette

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  39. Without dissections the advancement in science and medical studies would be rapidly slowed down. By dissecting a person can obtain a more massive amount of information about an animal than by just looking at it from the outside. And it's not like we're doing it to live animals, they're already dead.
    Nicole Pritchard

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  40. i think its great that we have disections there is nothing wrong with it, its to show us whats really inside of things, i mean i like them there really interesting i dont see how people could get angry from that

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